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Thanks for the info guys. The tab involved was the opening of Pink Floyd’s Sorrow. I got the TAB from the Olga site. I don’t think its a typo – probably the behind-the-nut bend. Good grief :-) Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m guessing that it would involve depressing the trem, picking and > bringing the note up to pitch. What’s the song?

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> : Can u not also literally "bend the neck" to do this? You kind of wiggle the > : headstock gently with your hand. Jaco Pastorius used to do it on his bass a > : lot. If you do try it though, be careful!!!

Read somewhere about Slash doing this in the middle of a gig and taking the neck off his les paul… embarrassing or rock’n'roll? —              I’m a reasonable man. Get off my case.

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> Thanks for the info guys. The tab involved was the opening of Pink Floyd’s > Sorrow. I got the TAB from the Olga site. I don’t think its a typo – > probably the behind-the-nut bend. Good grief :-)

A behind the nut bend would raise the pitch above the open note, so wouldn’t have the desired effect. On that song, Dave Gilmour used a Steinberger fitted with a transtrem From http://richardmahon.8m.com/ggg0103.htm Sessions for A Momentary Lapse Of Reason The majority of A Momentary Lapse Of Reason was recorded with a Steinberger. Gilmour used the small-bodied guitar with a three single coil Strat pickup arrangement and a Trans-Trem. The guitar signal was split by a stereo volume pedal into two delay pedals. The volume pedal also ran between the pre-amp and power amp of the first feed – into a Gallien-Krueger 250ML amplifier. The second feed was sent to a Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal pedal into a Boss GE-7 graphic equalizer then into a Fender Super Champ amplifier. The main guitar track of "Sorrow" was recorded this way. This was the basic setup for most of the album. [...] "Sorrow" – The intro was a Steinberger plugged into a Big Muff then a Fender Concert amp. Gilmour took the tapes and ran the intro through a loudspeaker setup at the Los Angeles Sports Arena. Gilmour also used a 1957 Re-issue Fender Stratocaster with a maple fretboard, EMG-SA active single-coil pickups and the EMG EXG tone control for boosting the highs & lows and the SPC to boost mid-range tones. Transtrems are amazing devices that are used in the same way as a standard trem bar, but have the advantage that all the strings stay in tune with each other as you use it to alter pitch. They were unavailable for a while after the Steinberger factory was destroyed by fire, but now Gibson (who bought the company) have started marketing them again through Musicyo. They’re not cheap though. http://www.musicyo.com/product_specs.asp?pf_id=542 http://www.musicyo.com/product_specs.asp?pf_id=258

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I think that it is a hammer off

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A behind the nut bend perhaps, as in the intro to Iron Man by Black Sabbath? > I’ll bite. What the hell is a "behind the nut bend"? > To the original poster: > ‘/0′ could be a typo. What song are you talking about, and give us some > of the context for the tab. > — > |/|  /-|  |2  |< > mehaase at seas dot upenn dot edu

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Depending on the song, but I think it is likely a slide down a string where you kind of pull off, but without making a marked pull off sound, to allow the open string to ring.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve seen something like the following two TAB notations recently and they > have me scratching my head. I think the first must be done by muting the > unplayed string, but I’m having real problems with the second. > 1. > 0×2233 > (this is not the notation, but you get the idea – missing a string in the > middle of the chord) > 2. > /0 > now, there’s the enigma for me – how to ’slide up’ to an open string? Has it > something to do with a whammy bar? > Thanks for your input > Ian > —

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> I’ve seen something like the following two TAB notations recently and they > have me scratching my head. I think the first must be done by muting the > unplayed string, but I’m having real problems with the second. > 1. > 0×2233 > (this is not the notation, but you get the idea – missing a string in the > middle of the chord)

They’re called "dead string chords" and involve, as you guessed, muting the unplayed string with one of your left hand fingers. In this case by touching the A string with the finger that is fretting the E on the D string. > 2. > /0 > now, there’s the enigma for me – how to ’slide up’ to an open string? Has it > something to do with a whammy bar?

I’m guessing that it would involve depressing the trem, picking and bringing the note up to pitch. What’s the song?

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What the other guys said.  In the intro to Iron Man there is a pre bend on the open low E, done behind the nut and slowly released.  It’s often mis-transcribed as a drop and release on the tremolo, but Iommi was playing an SG by this time rather than a Strat. Give it a go if you don’t have a locking trem, I think it sounds more natural than using the tremolo personally. — Get a sony laptop for $42 http://www.computerpipeline.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A behind the nut bend perhaps, as in the intro to Iron Man by Black Sabbath? > I’ll bite. What the hell is a "behind the nut bend"? > To the original poster: > ‘/0′ could be a typo. What song are you talking about, and give us some > of the context for the tab. > — > |/|  /-|  |2  |< > mehaase at seas dot upenn dot edu

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: Can u not also literally "bend the neck" to do this? You kind of wiggle the : headstock gently with your hand. Jaco Pastorius used to do it on his bass a : lot. If you do try it though, be careful!!! Sam,         Neck bends are certainly an option as well (for guitar or yoga).   "You’re just jealous because the voices only talk to me!"

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Hi folks. This might be a little beyond ‘beginner’ status but here goes. Country player Jerry Donahues’ video Country Tech (REH video) shows examples of several ‘behind the nut bends’. Whole-steps, 3rds, even a 4th. That’d be bending an open A string, behind the nut, up until it sounds the same as the D string! I didn’t know it was even possible. He’ll bend two strings sometimes.     Very cool/interesting stuff. Cheers, Rick – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> : I’ll bite. What the hell is a "behind the nut bend"? > Mark, > A behind the nut bend is when you bend an open string by > pressing down on the string between the nut and tuning peg.  Depending > on your tuners, how many windings you have around the pegs and your > stringing technique, this can pull you way out of tune. > Can u not also literally "bend the neck" to do this? You kind of wiggle the > headstock gently with your hand. Jaco Pastorius used to do it on his bass a > lot. If you do try it though, be careful!!! > Sam > — > "We don’t do things by halves on this show. Here is the third movement of > Bach’s > Brandenburg Concerto No. 4." > LISA DUNCOMBE, ClassicFM

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> : I’ll bite. What the hell is a "behind the nut bend"? > Mark, > A behind the nut bend is when you bend an open string by > pressing down on the string between the nut and tuning peg.  Depending > on your tuners, how many windings you have around the pegs and your > stringing technique, this can pull you way out of tune.

Can u not also literally "bend the neck" to do this? You kind of wiggle the headstock gently with your hand. Jaco Pastorius used to do it on his bass a lot. If you do try it though, be careful!!! Sam — "We don’t do things by halves on this show. Here is the third movement of Bach’s Brandenburg Concerto No. 4." LISA DUNCOMBE, ClassicFM

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: I’ll bite. What the hell is a "behind the nut bend"? Mark,         A behind the nut bend is when you bend an open string by pressing down on the string between the nut and tuning peg.  Depending on your tuners, how many windings you have around the pegs and your stringing technique, this can pull you way out of tune. "You’re just jealous because the voices only talk to me!"

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I’ve seen something like the following two TAB notations recently and they have me scratching my head. I think the first must be done by muting the unplayed string, but I’m having real problems with the second. 1. 0×2233 (this is not the notation, but you get the idea – missing a string in the middle of the chord) 2. /0 now, there’s the enigma for me – how to ’slide up’ to an open string? Has it something to do with a whammy bar? Thanks for your input Ian —

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A behind the nut bend perhaps, as in the intro to Iron Man by Black Sabbath? — Get a sony laptop for $42 http://www.computerpipeline.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve seen something like the following two TAB notations recently and they > have me scratching my head. I think the first must be done by muting the > unplayed string, but I’m having real problems with the second. > 1. > 0×2233 > (this is not the notation, but you get the idea – missing a string in the > middle of the chord) > 2. > /0 > now, there’s the enigma for me – how to ’slide up’ to an open string? Has it > something to do with a whammy bar? > Thanks for your input > Ian > —

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